Sunday, January 17, 2010

the Ind : A Dark Creation Story

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cagedmind0531
What's kickin?
forrestjones2010
chillin
cagedmind0531
That's cool. How was your day?
forrestjones2010
long...just woke up from a nap
cagedmind0531
Yeah I took a nap after the football game. Dallas got stomped sadly
forrestjones2010
what was the score?
cagedmind0531
I think it was like 24 or more to 3
It was bad
forrestjones2010
who did they play?
cagedmind0531
vikings
Bret Favre
This painting is still frickin wet!
It's been days
forrestjones2010
oil?
cagedmind0531
Yeah
I used a drying medium too
forrestjones2010
oils are finicky i rarely use them
cagedmind0531
I love the colors and the difficulty
Can't beat the final product when it comes to oil imo
forrestjones2010
i have considered going more or all digital
i startded wprking tighter and faster with small drawings and Gimp...
cagedmind0531
That's fine but everything is grounded imo with drawing/painting. Using things like that on paintings and drawings is where the truly good
products are made
Example
This painting I am doing. I know if I make semilarge areas of a single color surrounded by a contrast that when we finally scan it for the book..
I know I can change any color in it I want to and easily
forrestjones2010
right
the drawing and painting is def the foundation
what i mean is using in my case a sketch book and doing color later like penciling then inking then GIMP...
cagedmind0531
That can work. Just don't let it make you lazy
forrestjones2010
no chance of that...i have never drawn this much in my life
cagedmind0531
Cool
forrestjones2010
from october to now I have drawn like 150 seperate/new images
cagedmind0531
Oh by the way
That wood thing of the tree I did it.
I think. I remembered yesterday.
You drew it, then I put it in wood. If I remember right.
Then you used it to stamp the vase that you made for me
forrestjones2010
the vase
i forgot about the vase...do you have a picture of it?
cagedmind0531
I don't but I do still have the vase. Just the top broke so I had to trash that part sadly. It was beyond repair.
forrestjones2010
do you still have it...
cagedmind0531
Yes
forrestjones2010
if you are ever able to send a pic plese do...i vaugely remember it...was it anygood
cagedmind0531
I liked it, but if you were more familiar with the techniques involved it would have been better. I still love it though.
forrestjones2010
yeah it was a fun class
cagedmind0531
Man I am really going to need to relearn photoshop and the 3d programs all over. I hope UTC has better computers then Lamar
At lamar I had to severely limit the scale of my work due to the computers
forrestjones2010
i have no clue what i am doing but i am having a blast...i just started using GIMP like 2 weeks ago
cagedmind0531
I really need help with this color scheme...
forrestjones2010
wish i could see it
cagedmind0531
I am getting my sis to photo it.
forrestjones2010
nice
cagedmind0531
Getting them onto my computer right now but it's taking a bit. You gonna be around a while?
forrestjones2010
yea
cagedmind0531
There?
Poke
forrestjones2010
yup
cagedmind0531
Is it giving you the photo option?
forrestjones2010
no
got it
cagedmind0531
If the file looks corrupted it's not. It just opens best with Windows Gallery
forrestjones2010
i cant open it...can you post to fb?
cagedmind0531
Done
forrestjones2010
looking good
cagedmind0531
I can't decide on a color for the holes
forrestjones2010
blue?
cagedmind0531
I considered that but the center is already blueish. Should I just do a normal blue ya think?
I know for a fact light blue will look like shit
forrestjones2010
a lighter blue...not royal but dulled a little from royal
cagedmind0531
hmm
forrestjones2010
is this an independent piece from the older ones
cagedmind0531
It's going to be different but I did gesso over the older ones.
forrestjones2010
gotcha
cagedmind0531
Why? was that a mistake?
forrestjones2010
no just making sure i understood it as a whole
cagedmind0531
Ok now what I intend to do [if you are looking at it] is have 2 spikes per quadrant coming out between the spades. Each spike will be divided in half.
So each spike is 2 colors. They will all be the same colorsas each other.
Then between those spikes will be arcs of yellow fading into red
forrestjones2010
nice
cagedmind0531
Then in the cardinal directions of N,S,E,W will be 4 bigger spikes which I considered making spirals...but I'm not sure about that
Spirals are extremely hard to keep a symmetrical look
Do you think I am overkilling the symmetry on it?
forrestjones2010
it is totaly symetrical...run with it
cagedmind0531
One last question. I am considering putting a dark 1/2 inch border around the outside of what you see there.
Dark Brown
Opinions?
forrestjones2010
get it all done on the inside first...then decide
cagedmind0531
Good point
forrestjones2010
Check out our drawing i tweeked it a bit
there are 2 of them both blue...on FB
can you draw buildings and 3 point perspective?
u there?
cagedmind0531
Sorry was finishing the blue
Blue is done
What drawing? Not seeing anything on FB
Oh wait I see it
WOW THAT LOOKS BADASS!
I think it would look better if you digitally erase all the writing
What do you think?
forrestjones2010
i like the writing...but its minor either way its an easy change...do both
cagedmind0531
I could do alot better scripting now. It's a shame I don't have it to do it. You could redo the script yourself.
forrestjones2010
would you have anyobjections to incorporating what we work on into The Chrome?
or break out the creation aspect and make it the creation of The Chrome?
cagedmind0531
Hmm. As far as what I read The Chrome stuff would need some changes to match up to the masks etc. I'd have to read one after the other to lay down specifics but it's doable.
forrestjones2010
well nothing formal...but if things bleed from one project to another this is ok with you?
cagedmind0531
Yes that's ok
forrestjones2010
k
so we are going to focus after your painting is done on the creation myths/masks up to what point and we want it 100 to 150 pages?
cagedmind0531
Yeah 150ish pages and I'd like to use the Universe in a Nutshell as a rough reference of what we are looking to do.
forrestjones2010
k...i will get that back out...
cagedmind0531
I need to buy that book so I can use it as well.
One thing we can do...
Is he has a chapter explaining gravity or time or whatever, well we can use Gaia as a chapter or ether as a chapter.
We could draw examples of ethereal life and examples of gaian life
forrestjones2010
love it
cagedmind0531
I would be good at doing plants
I like plants
Remember the minimaps I used to draw?
forrestjones2010
i think...lets start a working blog to catch all this stuff...we can post and create a place to dump stuff onto
like that
cagedmind0531
I don't know how to do that
forrestjones2010
super simple i will start it and fill you in...what would you like the working title to be?
cagedmind0531
The Ind : A Dark Creation Story
forrestjones2010
http://thechromenovelbyhelfordjersey.blogspot.com/
example of the chrome blog
cagedmind0531
net is being a hooker
restarting my router brb
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Back
There?
forrestjones2010
yup
cagedmind0531
Are you going to make that blog tonight?
<---has no clue how long it takes
forrestjones2010
making now
takes a few minutes
cagedmind0531
Can you make that blue version of the drawing the background?
forrestjones2010
possibly
cagedmind0531
Where is your 'can do' attitude sir

forrestjones2010

http://the-ind.blogspot.com/
to acess and make changes to the blog use forrestjones2010@gmail.com pw=siren333
i dont know how to add a bg to a blog may take a few
cagedmind0531
No worries
forrestjones2010
i can at least throw the pic up and perhaps get it on later
cagedmind0531
No prob
forrestjones2010
sending you the hawking book via email...
cagedmind0531
Alrighty...
You do any more work on the comic lately?
forrestjones2010
oh yes
just have not uploaded it...
10 pics or so
cagedmind0531
cool
forrestjones2010
working on a girl series
cagedmind0531
girl series?
forrestjones2010
girls of the satanic 5
bad guys...girls
cagedmind0531
haha
sounds kinky
rofl
forrestjones2010
can i send a large file through yahoo?
not really
cagedmind0531
Yes you can
I believe so anyway
forrestjones2010
attempting to send
cagedmind0531
beth doesn't trust me to get a webcam
lol
forrestjones2010
is that your gf?
cagedmind0531
yes
'I will be extremely unhappy if you get a webcam'
How else am I supposed to send you pics. I can't borrow my sister's camera all the time.
forrestjones2010
?
i have one
cagedmind0531
Yeah but I don't
Oh I was quoting her
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Do you want me to send you the Masks document? I cut out the relevant part of the MASSIVE doc you sent
forrestjones2010
please
cagedmind0531
I haven't double checked it yet. I need to reread and revise quite a bit.
forrestjones2010
after i get the blog going...start posting to that and it will time stamp everything we do...also it has an internal search engine in it for quick retrieval
cagedmind0531
Cool
forrestjones2010
di you get the hawking book?
did
cagedmind0531
Yeah I did ty
forrestjones2010
np...just wanted to make sure...files dont always transfer like they should
cagedmind0531
Yeah thanks too because that book is over 30 dollars
forrestjones2010
np
i have had it for a while
cagedmind0531
Imagine if we could sell ours for 30 bucks a pop
That would rock
forrestjones2010
indeed
cagedmind0531
Dude I could totally be a traveling salesman!
lol Selling the book from store to store.
j/k
forrestjones2010
sweet...dude...dude wheres my car
cagedmind0531
lol
We would be like 'fake' bible salesmen
Since it's a creation story
lol
forrestjones2010
lol
i need a blog description of what we are doing...1 or 2 sentnces
check it
http://the-ind.blogspot.com/
cagedmind0531
Can you shrink it so it fits in that box?
The background
forrestjones2010
i will work on it
cagedmind0531
ok ...This is a creation story based upon the dark vision of J. Gaudet and H. Jersey. The graphic novel will be illustrated and exploratory into the nature of a universe that only exist in imagination.
that good?
forrestjones2010
sure
blog is done for now...if you can post any material you like here with that user name and pw...i will play with the pic...but for now that is the best i can do
cagedmind0531
Cool beans
forrestjones2010
this blog will be a shell blog a work in progress
as things become more polished i will create a blog of the same name that will be for more finished product...this will eventually be linked to www.theind.com or whatever we decide to call it at that time...i will buy the domain after things progress
cagedmind0531
How goes your comic project btw? What % is your progress?
forrestjones2010
?
cagedmind0531
How far along is the comic book?
forrestjones2010
we have a team working on 3 issues simultaneous...my issue is about 75% done i would say...lots of new talent just came on board...we have 2 full time guys working on 2 and me another guy are working on 1...they are all written
cagedmind0531
Cool
What's on your mind?
forrestjones2010
?
cagedmind0531
You're quiet. What are you up to?
forrestjones2010
working on the blog and talking to jim on the other yahoo window
cagedmind0531
ah alrighty
forrestjones2010
what is the first image i should work on?
cagedmind0531
hmm
A crow flying over a silver ocean. A dark sky but you can 'sense' color' mingling in it. Like the Aurora Borealis[spelling]
If you are ever depressed I have the perfect song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7qBq7cJg_s
forrestjones2010
what is it & thats where i will strt
cagedmind0531
That song cheers me up every time
forrestjones2010
ty
cagedmind0531
It was made to raise money for aids in africa
forrestjones2010
hmm
cagedmind0531
You know we've got to find a way, to bring some luvin here today!
ha
forrestjones2010
right on
cagedmind0531
You do any more rap anymore? lol
any more rap*
forrestjones2010
ha ha i have been writing music and songs but not rap...here is my most recent...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvJq-wQcYuk
i wrote the words...cnan played guitar...i sang...so be forgiving
cagedmind0531
I saw that one yesterday or the day before. Cainan did guitar right?
forrestjones2010
oh i forgot
cagedmind0531
No worries man, I liked it
forrestjones2010
i rote another one this morning...gospel type song for church
cagedmind0531
Man you are just a bastion of creativity aren't you
forrestjones2010
livin tha dream nucca livin tha dream
cagedmind0531
I feel like I'm dead honestly. Like I've been dead a long time. Like nothing comes from me.
I'm just here
I need to finish something before I fade away
forrestjones2010
that is nice...what is it from?
cagedmind0531
That's me just now...lol
forrestjones2010
you will finish many things
cagedmind0531
We'll see
forrestjones2010
and i feel the same way often like i am a conduit a channel for energy to flow through
cagedmind0531
Tomorrow I am buying more more mattes, I can't keep waiting on this 1 project. I've just gotta keep it going in the background. It's too time involved.
forrestjones2010
i understand...its a good work
cagedmind0531
Trying to think of ideas for the masks...It's a hard thing to visualize
forrestjones2010
do you keep a sketchbook?
rough sketches
cagedmind0531
Yes but it hasnt been used much
forrestjones2010
visually brainstorm...doodle...get it flowin holmes...i have been using photos for inspiraions for a while...it helps when i am stumped...mags...newspapers
cagedmind0531
I think I want Order to be a shield...like a shining shield

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